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Why do Muslims mutilate the genitals of their male children?

As an agnostic, I have some questions about Islam, but those of other faiths here are welcome to answer. I know I have a lot of questions, but you can answer as many or as few as you like, thank you. Don’t try to convert me, as I consider all religions epistemologically flawed.

1) Why is circumcision carried out when it is not mentioned in the Qur’an? The benefits are statistically negligible, which are outnumbered by the risks. Most importantly, this is a human rights issue as a baby cannot give consent. If he grows up and wants to cut it off later, then fine, but why proceed with an irreversible and unnecessary procedure?

2) If you believe that Islam is the one and true religion, what does that mean for people who believe in Christianity or Judaism or those who believe in a polytheistic religion or atheists? Are they all going to hell? Out of so many religions in the world, how would you reason and argue that your religion is the right one to an undecided person?

3) If there really is a God cares about humanity, why does he allow babies to suffer and die (who have not had the chance to redeem their sins) along with so much evil in the world? I read somewhere once that since we are all born sinners, it doesn’t matter when we die as we all will die sinners, and therefore suffering for the sins of other people is somehow magically part of “God’s plan”. This idea sounds particularly despicable to me.

4) Does a mentally retarded person or a person living in a very poor and remote area who has never heard of Islam automatically exempt him from going to hell?

5) Don’t you think the atheist who sacrifices his life for a good cause knowing there is no reward of an afterlife is MORE moral than the theist who thinks there is?

6) Why do so many Muslims try to dismiss religious terrorism by simply saying, “Ohh…terrorists aren’t REALLY Muslims.” So anyone who commits evil contrary to their religion suddenly absolves them of all responsibility? I guess Fred Phelps isn’t REALLY a Christian. I guess Ariel Sharon isn’t REALLY a Jew. Mohamed Atta definitely called himself a Muslim–he shouted “Allah Akbar” as he slammed the plane into the World Trade Center.

7) I know the Hadith is oral tradition passed down from generation to generation. But since it is subject to so many varying interpretations, why bother with it at all? Also, is the Hadith written down like the Qur’an? Can I buy a copy of the Hadith from a bookstore?
8) Why is there so much conflict today between Sunnis and Shias, especially in Iraq and the rift between the Arab League and Iran?

9) In Qur’an 5:38 it says that thieves must have their hands cut off as punishment. Do you really think this is compatible with any standard of modern day decency? If you ignore this passage, what gives you so much confidence in the truthfulness and validity of all the rest of the Qur’an?

10) How would you feel if one of your children marries a Jew? Would you love him or her less?
I’m proudly uncircumcised. My girlfriends prefer it when I’m having pre-marital sex :) .
Ah, too intimidated by simple questions? Expect the Kaaba to be bombed and destroyed soon.

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12 Responses to “Why do Muslims mutilate the genitals of their male children?”

  1. IHOP Employee says:

    I’m a Lutheran. I’m circumcised. Arguing religion with people is useless since there is no reason religion should exist.

  2. Egyptian Gazelle says:

    1. It is proven to protect against disease.
    2.God has sent down Christinity and Judaism, therefore they are people of the book. They were once the true religons but over time people changed everything about it. Islam was the last religon revealed and therefore the right one.
    3.We are in this world as a test, we are the ones to be sinners not God. If you want the mercy of God then don’t sin. As for babies who die, I consider them lucky for they go to Heaven right away.
    4.Handicapped people go to heaven right away. As for the other part of the question, it is merely impossible that you haven’t heard about Islam. However if this is the case God is the most merciful….besides as long as the person is monotheistic.
    5.Nope, a theist believes in God. Its as simple as that. Athiests don’t even believe in an afterlife so how should they expect a reward?
    6.No one ever said they weren’t Muslims. These people are just what society calls them “extremists”
    7. Hadith is things the prophet has said that we should follow because he is our best example. Thats why we should follow it all. Also, yes there are many books with hadiths.
    8. Simple put, people are intolerant of other beliefs.
    9. This is also in the bible and in the torah. Even the Romans and the Greeks went with this law. This is what is written in the bible (it basically applies) 19:21 “And thine eye shall not pity; but life shall go for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.”
    10. I would respect his decision, but be GREATLY dissapointed. These people are greatly misguided, and i’d BY FAR prefer a Muslim and not allow anything but that.

  3. trancinguy says:

    “I consider all religions epistemologically flawed.”

    And I consider all “Agnostics” as Atheists…
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    “Ah, too intimidated by simple questions?”

    Not really, just bothered by trollish ass/u/m/ptions.

  4. Zoser II says:

    Wow , It is a long Q,, Anyway , although I do not understand one point: do you really want to know the answers,, because you do not know,, or it is just a trail to promote your beliefs) based on criticizing,, otherwise,, I do not see a point,, If Christianity and Islam tend to expand because (a trend in both to expand) , is that the same with atheism?/, I mean , If the Christians, and Muslims see it is a holy duty to preach,,, Is it a holy duty also for an Atheist to do the same,,,I thought always that Atheism is ( the no belief in any thing) NOT the belief in attacking the beliefs in something… any way here are the answers:

    1) Male circumcision : In Islam, circumcision is mentioned in some hadith (it is referred as Khitan), Originally every thing which was ordered to Abraham, (either to do or not do ) is obligatory in Islam unless mentioned the opposite in Islam… I think this is an easy rule,,Jewish law states that circumcision is a ‘mitzva aseh (“positive commandment” to perform an act) and is obligatory for Jewish-born males,,Although it is obligatory for Muslims born children,, It is not an obligation for adults when converting to Islam ( apposite to Judaism),, you see:
    What is mentioned in Judaism is automatically an obligation in Islam (UNLESS) was mentioned again in Islam , Islam is not a new religion, the three Abramic religions are the same,,, Islam came to remind , and correct what PEOPLE did to the previous ones,,
    The human rights issue: Male circumcision is actually enhances the sexual sensitivity of male,, and also enhances lots of health issues (will be very long answer if i reply in detail) you can just wiki that subject and google it and you will see yourself,,
    I am surprised: is it ok to to do a hole in the ears for girls (which is painful) to put earring,, and not ok to do Male circumcision for the human rights???

    2) Religions , mean faith and beliefs,, can not be proved,, if any can prove a religion,, it will not be a religion , but will be a RULE,,, so no one needs to prove anything,, you are free to believe whatever,and I have the same right, we are not GOD,, If some Muslims do not do that,, well , They are suffering a sort of personalty disorders,, like with some Christians or even atheists,,in Islam it is mentioned clearly (I have my believes and you have yours)

    3) The Third point is very Important , what you mentioned is the main difference between ISLAM and both Christianity and Judaism ,,,Babies do not need to redeem their sins because they do not have any,, while in Christianity and Judaism Human inherited the sin of Adam and Eve,, and need to redeem the sin , In Islam ,no sin inheritance,,and no one needs to redeem any,,,we gain the sin when we are adults, and knowledgeable (if we do some)so only Adult / knowledgeable/Sane and free persons are
    to be judged,, anyone else NOT,,, and that also answer your 4th Q

    (again In Islam the humans are not born sinner,,, and that is the main difference between Islam / Christianity/Judaism)

    5) As I mentioned before,, No one is God,,so No one can Think for HIM,,,,that the answer for your 5th Q
    6) Islam is not a race, it is a belief,, Islam did not order anyone to be a terrorist,, or kill anyone,, like Christianity or Judaism,,, Now if someone claims he is a Muslim or whatever and comments what is opposite to that belief , why I consider him a Muslim even if he claims so,,, and Yes I do not consider who you mentioned really what they claim,, simply because religions are for the society safety not for destroying,, Those people (either they call themselves Muslims , christians or Jews or even whatever) are doing what they are doing either because of a power gain and interest or a sort of personality disorders) THAT IS IT
    7) A LARGE quantity of what some people claims, hadith, is not correct,, there is 3 ways to know if the hadith is correct or not:
    - who passed and approved the Hadith (who referred it ),,, there are some who are eligible,,,and some not
    -if it does not contradict with Quraan
    - it matches with the correct sanity
    and yes you can buy books with approved and agreed by lots of ( eligible scholars) 8) people are using religions to gain power, and interest,, those are the main reasons of the conflict between the sunni and Shaa , and between Muslims /christianity and Judaism,,, and in the same Christianity and Judaism
    9) the punishment of theft in Islam,carries lots of conditions (private money,person to a person – no need for the theft unless greed, stable time and fair social life..etc) if those conditions are not fulfilled ,, it is up to the ruler to decide a different punishment ( I think we are not fulfilling those conditions nowadays)
    10) Again i am not (God) , and it was encouraged to love and have good relations with the members of the family even if they are atheist,,, without being affected by them,,,
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    no one is intimated by your Qs, I myself do not care if you pray for God or a tree,, it is your choice, and btw el kaaba collapsed many times before,, it is a symbol not religion…
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    Sss who is the ignorant here???:
    1) The World Health Organization (WHO; 2007), the Joint United Nations Programme on HIV/AIDS (UNAIDS; 2007), and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC; 2008) state that evidence indicates male circumcision significantly reduces the risk of HIV acquisition by men during penile-vaginal sex, but also state that circumcision only provides minimal protection and should not replace other interventions to prevent transmission of HIV
    2) In a 2008 study, Krieger et al. stated that “Adult male circumcision was not associated with sexual dysfunction. Circumcised men reported increased penile sensitivity and enhanced ease of reaching orgasm

    it is fine , as I know that El robydah is talking these days( review what is rebydah)
    @———– Nono
    the sin inheritance is a long subject,, if you like, post a question and i will be glad to answer with a self story…

  5. The Egyptian Wolf III says:

    aWell i know you are a hardcore atheist who doesn’t want to learn or know anything but i will answer you questions,ignorant one:

    1. Circumcision was first done by the Prophet Ibrahim (Abraham) peace be upon him and since then all prophets (peace be upon them all did) and about that and in Quran it says:

    ” “Then We inspired you: ‘Follow the religion of Ibrahim, the upright in Faith’.”

    (Qur’an 16:123)

    Here are some reasons why circumcision should be done:

    http://www.missionislam.com/health/circu…

    2. Actually you are wrong, those who believe in one God and one God only and do right through their lives are sent to heavens and here are some verses:

    “Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians — whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord. And there will be no fear for them, nor shall they grieve” (2:62, 5:69)

    “…and nearest among them in love to the believers will you find those who say, ‘We are Christians,’ because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant” (5:82).

    “O you who believe! Be helpers of God — as Jesus the son of Mary said to the Disciples, ‘Who will be my helpers in (the work of) God?’ Said the disciples, ‘We are God’s helpers!’ Then a portion of the Children of Israel believed, and a portion disbelieved. But We gave power to those who believed, against their enemies, and they became the ones that prevailed” (61:14).

    3. No babies aren’t born “sinners” in Islam, no one is born a sinner because we are all born with our “Al fitre al saleema” the right instincts, and actually humans aren’t not to be punished untill they have reached puberty and death has no relation to whether you are a baby,an adult or an old man because death comes upon us and no one knows it’s. Actually anyone who dies before puberty are sent to heaven without being asked for what they did in life because they were not mature enough to be responsible for their actions and they are from the “Muttaqun mn al naar” the ones exempt from the hells of fire, so…. case dismissed.

    4. Yes they are exempt and they have their excuse since they have a mental illness are the same case as the dead babies, or those who had been tortured and forced into conversion or those who are of any other illness and can’t perform the ritual of Islam, will all be forgiven insha’aAllah.

    5. Are you taking opinions here or what? Give me a a direct question and i will answer you and as i said whatever their religion is, it’s their business with Allah and i can’t judge that. But for you know there was a hadith by Prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him) ” That a kaffir man who had been a sinner who almost his entire life been wandering in the desert and found a thirsty dog and a well, so he removed his boot and filled it with water and gave it to the dog to drink. This man was later exempted from all what he had done in the past for one good deed and on the contrary a very strict Muslim woman who had been faithful in her entire life but locked a cat in her house and refused to give it food was cast into the hells of fire because she was not merciful nor kind to the animal” So this shows that actually a good deed or a bad deed could turn the fate of a human.

    6.” Mohamed Atta definitely called himself a Muslim–he shouted “Allah Akbar” as he slammed the plane into the World Trade Center.” where you with him at that very moment? Did you actually hear him saying this? But anyhow Islam -in many many verses- abolishes terrorizing innocent people or even those who held arms against us but surrendered. Allah commands Muslims not to go beyond reason or violate any of the war codes and these are well known, that no man,woman,child,elder,buildings,trees,an… are to be hurt as long they don’t bear arms against us, and never to start a fight against one and if they ask for peace and amnesty they should be granted as long as they don’t violate the peace treaty. Besides one of the things for you to know Islam is AGAINST suicide and what he did was a suicide so he’s a kaffir not a Muslim.

    http://www.preparingforpeace.org/sajid_i… I would advice you to read this to know of Islam code and ethics of war and peace.

    7. Hadith is not an “oral tradition” it’s Prophet’s Mohammad (pbuh) words which was memorized by people like Bukhari and Muslim and those that are very correct in context have the word (saheeh-right) by the side of the Imams who memorized them. And you can buy Hadith book from an Islam bookstore or read them online on an Islamic website.

    8.We have no conflicts except for maybe political reasons but regarding religion they believe in almost every single detail of Islam except that they don’t like Rashidun Caliphs (Abu Bakr Al saddeeq, Omar ibn-ul Khattab,Othman Ibn Affan) those who came before caliphAli Ibn Abi Talib (May All be pleased with him)

    9. What the hell are you talking about?!! What decency are you talking about here!!! A man who steals, who take somebody’s rights, who deprive someone of something that belongs to them doesn’t deserve a punishment to fit their crime!!! Or maybe you are talking about your “standard modern day decency” that your culture brought upon us like for instance legalization of prostitution,pornography and many others on the list. How about if someone stole your hard earned money,possessions, car and your money in bank for example and then sent to jail for like 3 years and then out you go, what kind of a lenient punishment is this!! We don’t need your ” standard of modern day decency” because we are convinced with what we already got.

    10. I wouldn’t feel very happy even though males are allowed to marry from any other heavenly religion and even from a mushrikah but these are less favorable and they aren’t recommended at all. As for females they aren’t allowed to marry a non-Muslim just for you not to live in some fantasy. I wouldn’t be happy with his marriage because he could have had a better one but it wouldn’t lessen my love for him.
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    Say whatever you can say now you kaffir filth, because when your time comes that would be it and you are going to have some quality time in hell. And i presume your “girlfriend” who like getting humped before marriage is just another fat ugly whore from where you come from you dipsh!t……Screw you redneck no one is intimidated by your question you blind arrogant punk. The facts are right in front of you but you choose to remain blind of them, your call but it is a very bad one.

    @Ssssss: Are you directing your answer to the question or just criticizing and judging other posters answers? Actually circumcision does protect against many diseases as the foreskin actually contains fluids which provide a suitable environment for microorganisms to grow and cause disease in return!! And are you actually saying that without this foreskin we won’t be feeling or enjoying sex!! Please keep your opinions to yourself what makes you so sure anyhow?

    Plus what the hell is that “If you have sex with someone with HIV removing it will not magically protect you against it” So did anyone here say you should go and have sex with an HIV patient!! What kind of a lame question is this?!! Read carefully before giving answers that don’t make sense.

  6. sherif says:

    ok..this demands a long answer and who could really read all long answers in here..so i’ll try to be as short as i can..and i u want more just contact me and we can have a discussion on msn or anthing

    1)carried because our prophet said it should be carried…i’m a medical student uncircucision is a risk factor for more inection due to retained fluid in forskin,demands more effort for cleaning,a risk factor to cancer cervix in females who would have sex with uncircumcised males,what’s is its benefits?!

    2)any one who doesn’t believe in one god with no partners and didn’t do good and have good manners would go to hell…i think it complies that any one even not a muslim but believe in one god with no one like him,have no son and the man have good manners and treat others fairly would go to heaven

    3)so if u believe in god who is capable of anything,how u question his plans..i mean god created us to test us to reward us..how could that happens with no tragedies and bad things happen to us.. god wants to know what’s ur attitude and acceptance to what happens if it’s good or bad,how we treat each others even ur enemies…it’s the same how could be a doctor without studying real hard,passing exams and experiencing failure and success

    4)mentally retarded person in islam is going to heaven what ever he does,he isn’t questionned for what he do or believe..islam actually teaches us to take care of them

    5)yeah he would get his reward in life…anyone who sacrifices himself for a good cause would be rewarded in life..he is actually better than a murderer or a thieve who is muslim cuz then the muslim will be punished in life and after life..but a good non believer would be rewarded in life by loving of people around him,good memories but he would be punised in after life for not believing in god

    6)i think he is a muslim…no one ever could say that one is a muslim or not..and his actions would be judged by god not us

    7)hadith is a main source for sharia laws..and there are many studies by muslims to know the true ones from intruded ones and u should follow muslim hadith scholars’ interpretations, u can even have ur own interpretation…u can get them from saheh bokhary and saheh muslim

    8)it’s a racist man thing..like the war between catholics and protestants done by some to gain wealth and power,it has nothing to do with religion…but all their actions would be judged by god

    9)so if anyone steals everything u own..what’s ur verdict..where is the rights of the one who is robbed?…a thieve has committed a major crime and should be punished with a major punishement.. to spread the good manners in the community

    10)i won’t courage it..but if the jewish girl was a good one with good manners then she would be better than a muslim bad girl

  7. LEB TEEZ says:

    im agnostic.. my dad is muslim… im circumcised and glad. im quite fond of my mushroom head. having extra skin wouldnt look as good.

    i have such a perdy willy, me thinks.

  8. Pegah says:

    I’m only going to answer your third question since others gave good answers to you. Why do babies suffer and die? That’s the law of the nature (the law of the nature is made by God don’t take wrong ideas please). Believe it or not, we’re not so different from other creatures living on this planet. The only difference we have is the complexity of our brain which has made us the most intelligent BUT as long as we’re living on this planet, we have to obey the rules. The nature isn’t kind to any creature or living thing which doesn’t have the ability to live. Of course by man’s science so far we have been able to fight this back and that’s why our population is growing. But you may ask well why God has put such rules to destroy part of the population, well the answer is it is needed since we all need to live and if the nature does not do that, we will do it ourselves (don’t say no just go and take a look at places where people are dying cause of hunger and see what they do to each other sometimes). This planet needs a balance, and those who can’t live on it should leave. It’s even better for them too since if they don’t they’ll just suffer you can see that in children who have serious disorders and are saved cause of our science but are they really living? Are they enjoying their life? I don’t think so myself. So I think death is needed and it IS a justice. We all have the right to be HAPPY and YOU can’t tell people how they should be happy. You might ask why God creates babies who can’t live on this planet? The answer is in this world nothing works exactly right always. Mistake is the part of this world and why? God knows that better and if God is willing we may find out soon. I don’t see why you don’t believe in after life since it’s so obvious. There is some sort of energy (we haven’t found out exactly what it is yet) inside our body which when it leaves, body dies (you can say the ghost). But as we know nothing gets destroyed, specially if it’s energy or anything like it we just know it leaves this world but it’s still there somewhere and how do I know this? Quantum physics has explained this therefore there SHOULD be an after life and even if quantum physics couldn’t explain this, don’t you think our life would be so meaningless? Don’t you think it would be so ridiculous? I’ll leave that for you to decide. AND one more thing: Islam doesn’t order anything without a reason. There is always a good reason behind it and that reason is mostly based on science which we have started to find out and understand recently. So I just suggest you that you go and do a lot of research on Quran and also things that scientists have found out and then maybe you’ll see this world and ALL the heavenly religions in another way.

  9. nono says:

    first of all i am Christian…

    1. circumcision started when God told Abraham to do it to himself and all the males that follow God. its a covenant with God and his people.
    for human right thing, its fazlaka tab3an (i don’t know how to translate that) i mean the baby will grow up one day and he can choose his faith but its a covenant between God and his people.. it won’t harm him in any way!
    UNLIKE covenants that satanists do with satan.. some women give birth to kids and kill them for sake of satan!! did they ask the baby before doing that?

    2.Jewish people believe that every other person will go to hell unless they do the ten commandments and their rituals
    Christians believe that every other person will go to hell unless they believe in Jesus as God and in his blood
    (all the difference between Judaism and Christianity is that Jews are still waiting for Messiah or Jesus and waiting for all the prophecies in the old testament to get fulfilled .. all that actually happened but they are still waiting for it)
    Muslims believe that every other person will go to hell unless they believe in Muhammed as a prophet and God and do whats written in Quran and Sunna.
    Out of so many religions in the world, how would you reason and argue that your religion is the right one to an undecided person?
    - i don’t have to argue, you can just simply from a true heart ask God who is alive to reveal himself to you and show you the right path… piece O’ cake!

    3) In Christianity, we are all born sinners .. there is a verse that says so i can put it up if you want (thats why we know whats right and whats wrong, thats why we cannot go around naked, thats why we are not in paradise anymore) however if a kid dies, he will go to heaven for sure because his eyes are not “open” yet! if you are eyes are open (you can differentiate between whats right and whats wrong) and you die and you are not covered under the blood of Jesus Christ, there is no way you can make it to heaven! its not that we are suffering for the sins of other people.. its like if there was no sin, if Adam and Eve didn’t sin and disobey God, we wouldn’t have been living right now (because he told Eve that she had to give birth as a punishment) so God’s plan to come in flesh and die was to fix what Adam and Eve (disobedience and separation from God) did and wash our sins! he actually made is easier for us to go to heaven even after we disobeyed God .. i think it would have been easier for him not to do all that and leave us go to hell as he told Adam and Eve that once they ate from the tree, they would die (thats a law he cannot break it, take it back, or contradict himself) he does not want his people to be destroyed because he loves us

    4) i would consider you are asking about Christianity.. actually its God responsibility so that everybody hears about his message one way or another, so i can guarantee that everybody does hear about the message of God before their death and its their choice whether they accept it or not!

    5)heaven is not about deeds, its about accepting the blood of Jesus..we are human beings and nobody can die PERFECT or with no sins so God fixed that by giving us a free ticket to heaven through his blood! deeds come from inside of us because we love God and we appreciate what he did to us .. but you can never “buy” heaven through deeds ..only and only the blood of Christ that guarantees you heaven and washes or forgives all your sins..

    10) it says in the Bible not to marry foreigners (or people that are not Christians) .. i would try to raise my children in Christ and if they are true Christians they wouldn’t want to do something against what God said but its ultimately their choice .. i wouldn’t love them less or more its their life and its their soul as long as i teach them whats written in the book, its up to them to go by it or not
    they are who they are not my children anymore in front of God

  10. Egypt Tour Guide says:

    Hello
    1)circumcision it is not only a Muslim tradition, The prophet Abraham made it, Islam legislated this tradition because it protects men from lots of diseases coming from this little private cut part..

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    2)all the other religions going to hell, lots all sinner muslims going to hell too, but the difference between sinner Muslims and the other religion is Muslims will take some time in the hell and they will go out to the Paradise, the others will stay eternally.

    Allah is our God and Muhammed is our leader, it is a perfect thing to live in a society where the sinner who hurt (harm) us is punished, and good person rewarded…it will be a perfect world if we all believed in that.

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    3)=>”why does he allow babies to suffer and die (who have not had the chance to redeem their sins)”========> that false idea about Islam…in Islam we all birth in nature (Fetrah in Arabic) that means if the child died before adulthood, he will go to the Paradise I think it is so mercy from Allah to give the child more than 12 years without any settlement of an account with him.
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    4)Who has never heard of Islam ===> he will not go to hell, he will go to the Paradise because he has never heard of any Prophet …
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    5)atheist anyway will go to hell, because the first pillar in Islam to say “no God but Allah” only one God who control the world, did you hear of a ship sailing in a sea without a Captain, what will happen to it???? the world like this must be someone to control the World, How it is accurate, look at the sun, millions of years coming every day in the accurate time without any error, even one millisecond…..
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    6)”Ohh…terrorists aren’t REALLY Muslims.”==> Islam it is like any other religion, or any group, contains Good and corrupt ones, one of the most important rules of Islam is Peace with the others… terrorists are Muslims but they are conflict with the main rule of Islam (Peace), they have hard brains to understand that the force is the wrong way to Palestine from Jews, it should be a general straight war between muslims and Israel, not between Muslims and American People, USA gives Israel many trillions of dollars every year to kill Palestines , what is the benefit of that returns to USA?????? then the main case that forced terrorists to kill innocent American people is Palestine, and USA supports Israel.
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    7) you should buy “Al Bokhary And Muslim” books it is the most true Hadiths and leave the other weak Hadiths
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    8)conflict today between Sunnis and Shias===>
    every group contains different brains for their members, so that all muslim faiths understand Quran with their brains, many years passed the conflict became bigger, I will give you an Example:
    if I was a teacher, and I told the pupils to open the book, there will be a conflict between them, some will open the Pupil’s book the others will open an Activity book and some others will open both of them…. that is a conflict has happened to Muslims nowadays, only the intelligent brains who will survive from that war……(to be on the right way)….only one way to survive from that war, our Prophet said in the Hadith “Muslims will be separated to more than 70 groups, only one group will go to the Paradise “, he has known that conflict for 1400 years !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    so that from my opinion the winner group who not saying I’m Sunny, I’m Shia I’m Zaidi, I’m …………
    The true muslim who say I’m Muslim, and I’m walking with Quran and Hadith…..
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    9)thieves must have their hands cut off as punishment===> I’m with that punishment it is perfect, because if we cut off the hands of every thief there will not be any thief in the world, and you should to know they are cutting off with a minimum rate I think it is more than 20 USD, not any amount will lead him to this punishment…
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    10)a man can marry a Jew woman, but not vice versa, if my son marries a Jew it does not matter to me, because he want that, and religion it is not so important in comparing with good manners of the mother…

    I hope my answers were good for you, you can contact me to discuss lots of questions if you want…
    Best Regards Bro
    Mahmoud (Licensed Egyptian Tour Guide )

  11. G. #2 says:

    1) Mentioned in hadith, not Quran, and it has been proven to be at least somewhat beneficial for health.

    2) Only God knows the answer to this.

    3) First, people who die as a baby go straight to heaven, so it is a prize.

    4) Don’t know

    5) If they both sacrificed their lives for a good cause, the theist has more chance of being saved. Btw, this question is biased. you said the atheist KNOWING there is no reward, and the theist THINKING there is. To be unbiased, you should’ve used KNOWS or THINKS for both. :)

    6) Look, according to Islam and Quran, it is clearly stated that you cannot kill a person who does not deserve to die. So very simply the people who are terrorists, etc.. are not really Muslims.

    7) There is sahih Bukhari, etc.. Books with hadiths from before that are still intact, and there are strong hadiths that we accept, and weak hadiths that we refuse, etc…
    8) Before USA entered and made war in Iraq, I never heard of conflicts between Shia and Sunni. So the war is the answer.

    9) In Saudi Arabia, they still cut off the hands of thieves. And yes, I agree with the verse from the Quran. Isn’t it Quran? Then I agree.

    10) I still do not have children, and am not married, so I cannot answer this right know.

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    Wth? intimated by your question? Are you intimidated by my answers? I am sure no, so why would I be intimidated by as you said, very simple questions that I just answered ?

  12. Sssss S says:

    I don’t see how your initial question about circumcision relates to the rest of your questions. Anyway,s I’m a Christian, and I agree with you that male circumcision is mutilation (on par with female circumcision), however you should reconsider “all religions epistemologically flawed.” You need to be humble and acknowledge you’re not the bearer of ‘the truth’.

    Btw, male circumcision is also customary in the Coptic church (Christianity in Egypt), even though it clearly states in the Bible that it is unnecessary.

    The only thing I can see that justifies circumcision if it is commanded by God. But that is not the case anymore. Then there are health reasons. The female vagina is dirtier, produces more smegma, and harbors more bacteria than the intact penis. If health’s a reason to cut boys, then it’s a much better reason to cut girls. The ignorance on here saddens me:

    —–> “1. It is proven to protect against disease,” “and also enhances lots of health issues”

    What, HIV? If I have sex with a prostitute, I’m magically not going to get HIV? Cutting of all women’s breasts will get rid of breast cancer, do you suggest this? Please, at least list some sources.

    —–> “They were once the true religons but over time people changed everything about it. Islam was the last religon revealed and therefore the right one.”

    This link points to the contrary, you are wrong: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tahrif#Further_Modern_Christian_criticism

    —–> “Athiests don’t even believe in an afterlife so how should they expect a reward?”

    I cannot speak for Islam, but in Christianity, you cannot presume an individual’s salvation and usurp God’s authority. Indeed, we are warned not to judge.

    —–> “9. This is also in the bible and in the torah.”

    Christians are not under the law of Moses.

    —–> “do you really want to know the answer,, because you do not know,, or it is just a trail to promote your beliefs) based on criticizing,, otherwise,, I do not see a point”

    From what I see, the asker only made one statement that promoted his beliefs, the rest were questions. Why are you, as he said, “intimidated” by the questions, labeling them as criticism?

    —–> “Male circumcision is actually enhances the sexual sensitivity of male”

    Male circumcision removes the foreskin which just so happens to be the most sensitive part of the penis, removing 2/3rds of the penile nerve sensations. God have mercy on me.

    —–> “I am surprised: is it ok to to do a hole in the ears for girls (which is painful) to put earring,, and not ok to do Male circumcision for the human rights???”

    Seriously? You’re comparing ear piercing with male circumcision? There are no benefits to male circumcision, only reduced sensitivity, and you don’t call this a human rights issue? What about female circumcision?

    —–> “aWell i know you are a hardcore atheist who doesn’t want to learn or know anything but i will answer you questions,ignorant one:”

    —–> “having extra skin wouldnt look as good.”

    A cut or uncut penis looks the same when erect. So you’re telling me you want reduced sensitivity because you don’t like the way your penis looks when you go to pee every morning?

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